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Hi Max. Based on a recently concluded exchange of emails, with experts who are vehemently pushing for all such, so called renewable energy projects. The one thing I noted, as a key learning, is that their entire justification (argument) is based on numbers, dollars, amount of subsidy and taking away the money currently allocated to fossil-fuels. Those experts never utter words like ecology, ecological damage, species loss and material footprint. Worse they deny that mining is the gigantic devastator in this quest for "green paradise". For professional reasons, I cannot disclose who they are, however you can guess right. Point being, the majority of experts, all based in rich nations are ignoring all the "Unknown and potentially catastrophic effects on the ecosystem”

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Absolutely. Global warming — indeed, the whole planet — is nothing but a math problem to so many politicians / technocrats / regulators. It's a sad reflection of human supremacy and the cultural trauma of being uprooted from ancestral territories and culture.

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Hi Max. For now i take it as a horrid combination, of technological hubris + a reductionist mindset. With both we are done with. Totally “uprooted from ancestral territories and culture.”

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turns out the metal-containing seafloor nodules that battery companies want to trawl for are an oxygen source - https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c728ven2v9eo (idk how the amount compares to what marine photosynthesizers produce)

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I saw that headline but haven’t read the study itself yet. Thanks for sharing this, Andrea!

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Given the amount of oil that blows into our fields from the PGE Biglow wind project on our land, oil is a huge concern. Of course, I've been told there are large pans under the towers to collect the oil. The key takeaway is that the "wind" tower means it's windy, and the wind blows the dripping oil. It's almost laughable.

I've also heard that crabs are extremely skittish, and the Oregon Coast is famous for its crabbing. They even filmed episodes of "Deadliest Catch" off our coast! Vibration and noise will be a big factor that hasn't been studied.

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Absolutely, Kathy. I've seen the oil leaks, too. ExxonMobil has an entire division dedicated to wind turbine lubricants. And between the vibration, noise, and EMF the indirect impacts on marine life could be very significant.

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sounds like another Standing Rock scenario....i just saw this on Tiokasins page....no words.

Best to you in your(our) efforts.

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Thank you Linda. I appreciate you reaching out and am grateful to Tiokasin for helping tell the story, and all his work.

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“They” don’t care. Someone is going to make billions off of this. Follow the money. 💰

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